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moonwell 
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Joined: 11 Mar 2001
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Location: Des Moines, IA

1992 Cavalier Z24 1994 Cavalier Z24 1977 KZ900
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91berettagt 
Gave my left eye to keep posting

Joined: 20 Jul 2003
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Location: Port Monmouth, NJ



1991 Beretta GT
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Just thought i'd mention that you can do it the right way too... using the right side spindal on the right side....
it's explained here...
http://www.beretta.net/performance_corner/custom/susbrake/bigbrake.html
It puts the calipers on the rear side allowing for 50% less pedal feel... you'd end up with the feel of anti lock brakes... _________________
Rob
'06, '08 V6z24Bash Attendee.
'91 Beretta GT 3400 5 speed
- 14.553 @ 94.01 mph. - 2006.
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mars_man 
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Joined: 16 Oct 2001
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Location: Chelmsford, ON

1991 Cavalier Z24
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Is that a proven fact...? I am not trying to say you're wrong or anything, I'm just curious as to how this can change anything...? _________________
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sleeper 
Can't get enough

Joined: 10 Jun 2002
Posts: 6626
Location: Canonsburg aka GUNTOWN!!!!, PA USA

1992 Cavalier Sedan 1991 Cavalier RS 2005 F-150 XLT 1996 Sunfire
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so all you have to do is, basically, put the left side spindle on the right side and vice versa, and bend the brake line to go to the rear? _________________
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91berettagt 
Gave my left eye to keep posting

Joined: 20 Jul 2003
Posts: 4948
Location: Port Monmouth, NJ



1991 Beretta GT
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| mars_man wrote: |
Is that a proven fact...? I am not trying to say you're wrong or anything, I'm just curious as to how this can change anything...? |
I'm really not sure if it's true, that was just taken from http://www.beretta.net 's website, the guy who made that how-to is pretty smart and knows his stuff... (Aaron Choate, 92 GTZ, Quad 4, Turbo, Nitrous) I have videos' of him raping 3800 supercharged's real bad... it'd be like a 12 second muscle car vs my beretta with the 3.1 Auto... _________________
Rob
'06, '08 V6z24Bash Attendee.
'91 Beretta GT 3400 5 speed
- 14.553 @ 94.01 mph. - 2006.
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greenmean1 
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Joined: 25 Jan 2004
Posts: 132
Location: Mason City, Iowa

1987 Cavalier Z24
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Hi, I found that a 95 Grand Am used the same 10 inch rotor and knuckle and brake caliper as the ones from 92' to 94' Cavaliers did. Theres a large abundance of Grand Ams in salvage yards. So take your pick. _________________
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91berettagt 
Gave my left eye to keep posting

Joined: 20 Jul 2003
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Location: Port Monmouth, NJ



1991 Beretta GT
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| greenmean1 wrote: | | Hi, I found that a 95 Grand Am used the same 10 inch rotor and knuckle and brake caliper as the ones from 92' to 94' Cavaliers did. Theres a large abundance of Grand Ams in salvage yards. So take your pick. |
Not sure as to why but i also noticed that my friend ryan's 3rd gen uses a usable steering knuckle... i think his tie rod is off that knuckle though and wouldnt' change anything other than having the thing there not being used... he can use my rotors and pads i have for my 10" swap that i'm the process of completing... sometime this year... _________________
Rob
'06, '08 V6z24Bash Attendee.
'91 Beretta GT 3400 5 speed
- 14.553 @ 94.01 mph. - 2006.
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91berettagt 
Gave my left eye to keep posting

Joined: 20 Jul 2003
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Location: Port Monmouth, NJ



1991 Beretta GT
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Okay I got around to starting my brake upgrade... I will make my own post to show with pictures in the appropriate forum however... I did put new Wheel bearings in my 91 Spindles, Less than a month ago.
I Remember reading the how-to I posted because I was thinking about going to do Aaron Choate's way of the brake upgrade but decided to do things the V6 Way...
Because the wheel bearings are new in my 91 spindals I would like to use them in my 92+ upgrade. I did some research and found out the wheel bearings are identical as the part numbers match. I did not want to use the old/new dust shields behind the bearings because once they are pulled probability says that i will bend/break/tear them in some way so I tried ordering new ones. I had a hard time finding them and I ended up getting them from Napa.
Here is the part number If anyone else has a hard Time finding them, Napa has them. the Part number is 18765 and is considered an Oil Seal (yes it's the right part as they work) and cost me around $6 for the pair (US funds)
Later! _________________
Rob
'06, '08 V6z24Bash Attendee.
'91 Beretta GT 3400 5 speed
- 14.553 @ 94.01 mph. - 2006.
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waring-rice 
Addicted Member

Joined: 17 Feb 2002
Posts: 435
Location: broken arrow/tulsa oklahoma

1993 Cavalier RS Convertible 1992 Cavalier Z24 1992 Cavalier LS Convertible 1999 Silverado 1500 1969 Mustang
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i have a 92 Cadillac Seville sts that had 4 wheel disk. dose anyone think that the disk off the rear will fit the cavi? _________________
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Brad91Z 
Ran out of titles

Joined: 04 Jun 2001
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Location: Algonquin, IL



1992 Cavalier Z24
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It may, but not without some customization.
Brad _________________

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americanz24 
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Joined: 31 Dec 2004
Posts: 1819
Location: NJ to Benson, North Carolina



1987 Cavalier Z24 1987 Cavalier Z24
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Heres a list of donar cars for the 10 inch brakes
* 91-95 BUICK Skylark 2.3
* 91-92 BUICK Skylark 2.5
* 94-95 BUICK Skylark 3.1
* 91-93 BUICK Skylark 3.3
* 92-95 CHEVY Beretta 2.2
* 92-94 CHEVY Beretta 2.3
* 92-95 CHEVY Beretta 3.1
* 92-95 CHEVY Cavalier, Z24 2.2L
* 94-95 CHEVY Cavalier, Z24 2.3L
* 92-95 CHEVY Cavalier, Z24 3.1L
* 92-95 CHEVY Corsica 2.2
* 92-95 CHEVY Corsica 3.1
* 92-95 OLDSMOBILE Achieva 2.3L
* 94-95 OLDSMOBILE Achieva 3.1L
* 92-94 OLDSMOBILE Achieva 3.3L
* 90-91 OLDSMOBILE Calais
* 91-95 PONTIAC Grand-Am 2.3
* 91-92 PONTIAC Grand-Am 2.5
* 94-95 PONTIAC Grand-Am 3.1
* 92-94 PONTIAC Grand-Am 3.3
* 92-94 PONTIAC Sunbird 2.0
* 92-94 PONTIAC Sunbird 3.1
* 1995 PONTIAC Sunfire 2.2
* 1995 PONTIAC Sunfire 2.3
| cahilj wrote: | Hmmm....
That list has a few errors, and its only for the replacement parts (caliper/rotor/pads) not the part you really need (spindle).
Thanks though. |
| seanski wrote: | | all the vehicles you listed the parts will work, the spindles are different but you can make it work, just cut the steering arm off the 3rd gen spindles |
*EDIT* I have completed the swap, very easy, just swap the L with the R like it says to keep them in the Front! _________________

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pezed 
I lost count...

Joined: 27 Sep 2003
Posts: 3687
Location: Richmond, Kentucky



1988 Cavalier Z24 1989 Cavalier Coupe 1988 Firenza
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just thought i'd say.. it doesnt matter if the calipers are toward the front or back of the car.. it makes no difference in stopping power or pedal feel. 92-94 had them in the rear, then in 95+ they went back to the front again, so its easiest to just leave them in the front so you can use the shorter style hoses and not have to bend any lines. _________________
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tracklayers 
Messageboard Junkie

Joined: 07 Jun 2007
Posts: 638
Location: Seattle, Washington

2005 G35 1989 Cavalier Z24 Convertible
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What size nut is the Hub nut? _________________
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91z24 
Gave my left eye to keep posting

Joined: 24 Nov 2003
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Location: Montreal, Quebec

1993 Cavalier Z24 2001 Grand AM
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30mm _________________
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steve1989 
Mboard Overdose
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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Location: GTA, Ontario

1989 Cavalier RS Coupe
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anyone know if you can still use the stock 14" rims from the 89 cars ? _________________
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