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87_z24 Addicted Member Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 291 Location: Greencastle, Indiana 1987 Cavalier Z24 Sedan 1990 Cavalier Z24 1986 Cavalier Z24 1978 EL Camino 1983 K10 Pickup	Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: Ok you sold me,.... I think i'm going to do this setup on my 86 rather than the 3800 S/C. I was looking at the 3800 in hopes of more power than the 3400, but this has very effectively changed my mind. I'm also looking at VFN Fiberglass for the front clip,doors,decklid, and other misc parts, and am going to do other things to eliminate weight. What prices should I be looking for on the 3400, and what would be an optimum year/model to obtain the 3400 from. *Back to topic* Thats a killer setup man and I'm very impressed, I may be looking to you with questions about the "Project Insanity" '86 Z24. _________________ Chief of the Smackaho Tribe *Sig by Morkeste*
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89jyturbo Post Whore Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 1009 Location: Lancaster, Pennsylvania 1989 Cavalier Z24 1989 Other	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: Thanks Gerzy. There are some new exterior shots of my car in my regristry that show the polished 3rd gen wheels a little better. Hard to even see they are polished on the vid. 87_z24 wrote: What prices should I be looking for on the 3400, and what would be an optimum year/model to obtain the 3400 from. *Back to topic* Thats a killer setup man and I'm very impressed, I may be looking to you with questions about the "Project Insanity" '86 Z24. The 3400's are all the same, if I'm not mistaken. I paid $700 for the engine currently in my car, which had 56k miles on it. I plan to upgrade the pistons in it in the near future to better handle the stresses of nearly double the factory HP (my first 3400 broke a piston skirt after about 13k street miles and 20 or so mid-12 second drag strip passes). _________________ www.khturbo.net 1989 Z24 5-speed '02 3400 V6, 16psi of Turbo Best 1/4- 11.9 at 119 328HP/352TQ to the wheels HOT ROD Drag Week 2008
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wasas9 I lost count... Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 3641 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin 1988 Cavalier Z24 2002 Cavalier Z24 1992 Cavalier Z24	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:40 pm    Post subject: 89jyturbo wrote: Thanks Gerzy. There are some new exterior shots of my car in my regristry that show the polished 3rd gen wheels a little better. Hard to even see they are polished on the vid. 87_z24 wrote: What prices should I be looking for on the 3400, and what would be an optimum year/model to obtain the 3400 from. *Back to topic* Thats a killer setup man and I'm very impressed, I may be looking to you with questions about the "Project Insanity" '86 Z24. The 3400's are all the same, if I'm not mistaken. I paid $700 for the engine currently in my car, which had 56k miles on it. I plan to upgrade the pistons in it in the near future to better handle the stresses of nearly double the factory HP (my first 3400 broke a piston skirt after about 13k street miles and 20 or so mid-12 second drag strip passes). Not all 3400s are the same, remember now. Get a pre-2003 and you will be fine. 2004 and up have a different crank which is not compatible with OBD1 _________________ The youngest 3500 swapper. 1 of 7? 3500 swapped Jbodies in the known world. Car of the Month - January 2010! Bash Attendee: 2006, 2009
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Six_Shooter Ran out of titles Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 19040 Location: ,,,(>_<),,, 1985 S15 Jimmy 1985 SkyHawk 1998 Malibu 1984 Other 1973 240z	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: wasas9 wrote: 89jyturbo wrote: Thanks Gerzy. There are some new exterior shots of my car in my regristry that show the polished 3rd gen wheels a little better. Hard to even see they are polished on the vid. 87_z24 wrote: What prices should I be looking for on the 3400, and what would be an optimum year/model to obtain the 3400 from. *Back to topic* Thats a killer setup man and I'm very impressed, I may be looking to you with questions about the "Project Insanity" '86 Z24. The 3400's are all the same, if I'm not mistaken. I paid $700 for the engine currently in my car, which had 56k miles on it. I plan to upgrade the pistons in it in the near future to better handle the stresses of nearly double the factory HP (my first 3400 broke a piston skirt after about 13k street miles and 20 or so mid-12 second drag strip passes). Not all 3400s are the same, remember now. Get a pre-2003 and you will be fine. 2004 and up have a different crank which is not compatible with OBD1 Wrong, that is only the Envoy, or what ever that SUV is that is different. The rest of thew 2004 3400 crank trigger is the convention 7x. _________________ Midnightriderz24: Where's my Emulator that I paid for? The Surgeon General never said anything about smoking the competition!
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wasas9 I lost count... Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 3641 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin 1988 Cavalier Z24 2002 Cavalier Z24 1992 Cavalier Z24	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:47 pm    Post subject: Six_Shooter wrote: wasas9 wrote: 89jyturbo wrote: Thanks Gerzy. There are some new exterior shots of my car in my regristry that show the polished 3rd gen wheels a little better. Hard to even see they are polished on the vid. 87_z24 wrote: What prices should I be looking for on the 3400, and what would be an optimum year/model to obtain the 3400 from. *Back to topic* Thats a killer setup man and I'm very impressed, I may be looking to you with questions about the "Project Insanity" '86 Z24. The 3400's are all the same, if I'm not mistaken. I paid $700 for the engine currently in my car, which had 56k miles on it. I plan to upgrade the pistons in it in the near future to better handle the stresses of nearly double the factory HP (my first 3400 broke a piston skirt after about 13k street miles and 20 or so mid-12 second drag strip passes). Not all 3400s are the same, remember now. Get a pre-2003 and you will be fine. 2004 and up have a different crank which is not compatible with OBD1 Wrong, that is only the Envoy, or what ever that SUV is that is different. The rest of thew 2004 3400 crank trigger is the convention 7x. ahhh my mistake. I thought it was all of them. And i think it's the Equinox _________________ The youngest 3500 swapper. 1 of 7? 3500 swapped Jbodies in the known world. Car of the Month - January 2010! Bash Attendee: 2006, 2009
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slowbird V6Z24.com 0wnZ me Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 2033 Location: Brampton, Ontario 2004 Grand AM 1991 Sunbird LE	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:48 pm    Post subject: wasas9 wrote: Not all 3400s are the same, remember now. Get a pre-2003 and you will be fine. 2004 and up have a different crank which is not compatible with OBD1 Really? I have not heard of this. What's the crank difference? _________________
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wasas9 I lost count... Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 3641 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin 1988 Cavalier Z24 2002 Cavalier Z24 1992 Cavalier Z24	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: slowbird wrote: wasas9 wrote: Not all 3400s are the same, remember now. Get a pre-2003 and you will be fine. 2004 and up have a different crank which is not compatible with OBD1 Really? I have not heard of this. What's the crank difference? Read above _________________ The youngest 3500 swapper. 1 of 7? 3500 swapped Jbodies in the known world. Car of the Month - January 2010! Bash Attendee: 2006, 2009
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cavi_racer_rs V6Z24.com 0wnZ me Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 2190 Location: Bennettsville, Marlboro County, South Carolina 1992 Cavalier RS Coupe 1990 Talon TSI	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Thats crazy. _________________ Them:I almost had that v6 cavalier. Me:Sorry to break it to you, but I got a 4 cylinder. Them:(shocked)
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weston19 V6Z24.com 0wnZ me Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 2299 Location: Windsor, Ontario 1988 Cavalier Z24	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: slowbird wrote: wasas9 wrote: Not all 3400s are the same, remember now. Get a pre-2003 and you will be fine. 2004 and up have a different crank which is not compatible with OBD1 Really? I have not heard of this. What's the crank difference? The crank has a 57x reluctor wheel, which we cant use. Unless you want to take off the old wheel and weld a new one on, it wont work with a factory ecm. An aftermarket ecm is a different story however. _________________
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slowbird V6Z24.com 0wnZ me Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 2033 Location: Brampton, Ontario 2004 Grand AM 1991 Sunbird LE	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: weston19 wrote: slowbird wrote: wasas9 wrote: Not all 3400s are the same, remember now. Get a pre-2003 and you will be fine. 2004 and up have a different crank which is not compatible with OBD1 Really? I have not heard of this. What's the crank difference? The crank has a 57x reluctor wheel, which we cant use. Unless you want to take off the old wheel and weld a new one on, it wont work with a factory ecm. An aftermarket ecm is a different story however. Thanks Weston. Is that the same x reluctor wheel that the 3500 uses? Hmmmm.... _________________
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syn * Newbie * Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Posts: 5742 Location: oxford, Michigan 1993 Cavalier Z24 1998 SC Series 1998 Camaro Z28	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: slowbird wrote: weston19 wrote: slowbird wrote: wasas9 wrote: Not all 3400s are the same, remember now. Get a pre-2003 and you will be fine. 2004 and up have a different crank which is not compatible with OBD1 Really? I have not heard of this. What's the crank difference? The crank has a 57x reluctor wheel, which we cant use. Unless you want to take off the old wheel and weld a new one on, it wont work with a factory ecm. An aftermarket ecm is a different story however. Thanks Weston. Is that the same x reluctor wheel that the 3500 uses? Hmmmm.... yes _________________ 1998 z28 head and cam car 11.3x@121 no 3rd gear 1999 corvette sold 1998 z28 6speed 408 ls2 stroker sold
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slowbird V6Z24.com 0wnZ me Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 2033 Location: Brampton, Ontario 2004 Grand AM 1991 Sunbird LE	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: thanks. _________________
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silverghost Mboard Overdose Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 789 Location: Surrey, British Columbia 1991 Cavalier VL Coupe 1991 Camaro Z28	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Heads were apparently revised in 2003. Note: Revised doesn't necessarily mean improved since this is GM _________________
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syn * Newbie * Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Posts: 5742 Location: oxford, Michigan 1993 Cavalier Z24 1998 SC Series 1998 Camaro Z28	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: silverghost wrote: Heads were apparently revised in 2003. Note: Revised doesn't necessarily mean improved since this is GM i think it was o2 actually _________________ 1998 z28 head and cam car 11.3x@121 no 3rd gear 1999 corvette sold 1998 z28 6speed 408 ls2 stroker sold
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midnightriderz24 Gave my left eye to keep posting Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 4022 Location: Appleton, WI (Chicago right now for college) 1990 Cavalier Z24 2001 Other 1989 Cavalier Z24	Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: syn wrote: silverghost wrote: Heads were apparently revised in 2003. Note: Revised doesn't necessarily mean improved since this is GM i thin k it was o2 actually qft _________________ UTI 2008 ASE Master Certified. GM Certified. 12.268@117... 11's to come! The youngest 3400 swapper *STILL* Turbo lag: The time you wasted before you bought a turbo! 358WHP & 365Ft lbs. TO THE WHEELS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUqJyopd720
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