Garrett Turbo for 2.0

jowek70 · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject:

ok well i'm headin to pick up the turbo in about 30 minutes
i'm pumped lol
but will the 3.1 rad drop in and bolt up to my cooling system?
i thought somebody said it was upside down compared to the 4 cyl..
and for intercoolers that size is about where i'm gonna go then
and for a BOV i'm still researching into them

jowek70 · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject:

just got home from picking up my turbo (and girlfriend lol)
its in pretty nice condition
pretty clean
very little play in the fan
all the goodies to hook it up
but i think the 4 bolts for the manifold aren't with it and the 2 bolts that hook up to the downpipe aren't with it either
but those should be easy to get
oh and i got a free intercooler too
the guy gave it to me cause he had like 300 of them
its for a volkswagon of some kind
pretty nice, needs some attention
but its dual core and pretty beefy
thanks for the help and be sure i'll need some more in the next few months

cavi_rs_94 · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject:

good to hear man

Nice score on the free intercooler!!!

eudidimuss · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject:

cool, well happy boosting!!

slowolej · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:39 am Post subject:

V6 radiator not like 2.0 'Bird radiator. Very, very different. Inlet and outlet on opposite sides. 88 - 89 2.0 3 core bird radiator does a helluva job cooling.

I don't buy new injectors unless there's absolutely no choice. Look for injectors sized between 27 and 30 lbs/hr on Ebay. Or try Lindertech. They've been around for years and they do a great job with reconditioning.

Plan ahead. The factory turbo cars return turbo oil into the block. The boss is cast in all blocks, but it's not drilled or tapped in N/A engines. You'll either need to add a return to the block or rig something up with the pan or fill pipe.

Good luck.

cavi_rs_94 · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:57 am Post subject:

decyphex · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:42 am Post subject:

cavi_rs_94 · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:58 am Post subject:

ah ok lol

hpjunkie · Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:36 am Post subject:

slowolej · Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:48 am Post subject:

Nope, it doesn't. Check again... it goes to a cast boss just above the pan directly below the turbo. There's no different pan for the turbo engine in 1990.

The hole in the block, center, is factory oil return. The fitting on the pan to the lower left of the factory return was added for a different turbo.

You can read that the fitting was added:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2138652
"just welded the wastegate shut LOL. 32 Lbs of boost later at spikes and a bad oil return line (we tapped the oil pan too low below the oil line so it didnt recirculate until the front end lifted aka BOOST !!) "

Notice the hole's not there in Decyphex's engine (image shamelessly stolen)?

I've been down this road several times.

jowek70 · Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:33 am Post subject:

http://www.alldiscountautoparts.com/discountparts/buy.php?make_text=pontiac&model_text=sunbird&ml=sunb-gt-002&year=1988&part_name=radiator&brand_name=silla&make_code=PN

what are other ways of getting oil to it?
and for the rad, i think i'll just get a sunbird gt one like the link
i'll try to find some injectors somehow
thanks for the help
any future help or comments and concerns are appreciated

slowolej · Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject:

No reason you can't put the return in the pan. Many, many turbo installs do it like this. I have no idea what that guy was trying to say with boost spikes due to improper placement. If the oil can't get back to the pan you end up with blue smoke as the oil gets pushed into the exhaust past the turbo oil seals.

hth

decyphex · Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject:

jowek70 · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:13 am Post subject:

well today i'm goin to clean up all my parts and try to get some pics up of everything
thanks for the advice so far
i really appreciate it
after inspecting the intercooler further.......i found that it was made in germany for Audi and VW's with turbos......its dual core and honestly prolly close to 4 inches deep, prolly 6 or 7 inches tall and about 14 inches wide....pretty beefy....
the inlet and outlets are on the same side....dunno if that's better or worse and it has a few holes for mounting
but like i said i'll have pics up later today

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