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pezed I lost count... Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 3691 Location: Richmond, Kentucky 1988 Cavalier Z24 1989 Cavalier Coupe 1988 Firenza	Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:01 pm    Post subject: If you want to remove ABS Heres how you have to rebend the lines (use a good tubing bender and you need to get a bubble flare tool(they can be found on ebay for $20)). you need a master cylinder off a non-abs J and the fittings also (junkyard $10) Yes i still need to remove the ABS wiring! It leaves a nice hole in the firewall for an air intake from the cowl! _________________
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burn * Newbie * Joined: 13 Dec 2002 Posts: 5111 Location: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada 1992 Cavalier Sedan 2006 Colorado LT	Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: ya know u dont need top remove the ABS master. I pulled the ABS module and the harness to the master, and it works just fine without it. _________________ The First 3400 Powered Sedan
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pezed I lost count... Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 3691 Location: Richmond, Kentucky 1988 Cavalier Z24 1989 Cavalier Coupe 1988 Firenza	Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: burn wrote: ya know u dont need top remove the ABS master. I pulled the ABS module and the harness to the master, and it works just fine without it. Thats true. BUT: i've been told the pistons inside the ABS module will move over time and cause braking problems. But overall this is worthwhile. It makes bleeding the brakes 100% faster and my brake pedal is so much harder now. when i press the brakes its like there is a block of wood behind it. it moves about an inch and stops. I like it. (btw ive been running like this for about 6 months. the master cylinder im using is off a sunbird sedan. The part number is the same, but the ABS master cylinder ports aren't threaded for the lines to screw in, the abs module just bolts to it with O-rings between it and the MC) _________________
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unknownz24 Messageboard Junkie Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 664 Location: Kelowna, British Columbia 1990 Cavalier Z24	Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: If you want to remove ABS pezed wrote: Heres how you have to rebend the lines (use a good tubing bender and you need to get a bubble flare tool I like that. Bubble... double.... same thing... _________________ Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.
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pezed I lost count... Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 3691 Location: Richmond, Kentucky 1988 Cavalier Z24 1989 Cavalier Coupe 1988 Firenza	Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: If you want to remove ABS unknownz24 wrote: pezed wrote: Heres how you have to rebend the lines (use a good tubing bender and you need to get a bubble flare tool I like that. Bubble... double.... same thing... Actually no, a double flare and bubble flare are completely different. _________________
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unknownz24 Messageboard Junkie Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 664 Location: Kelowna, British Columbia 1990 Cavalier Z24	Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: If you want to remove ABS pezed wrote: unknownz24 wrote: pezed wrote: Heres how you have to rebend the lines (use a good tubing bender and you need to get a bubble flare tool I like that. Bubble... double.... same thing... Actually no, a double flare and bubble flare are completely different. Hmm, what do you know!? They are different Ah well, fun while it lasted _________________ Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.
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seanski Can't get enough Joined: 09 Nov 2002 Posts: 6246 Location: Winnipeg 1994 Cavalier Sedan 2002 A4 Quattro 1997 A4 Quattro	Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:53 pm    Post subject: whenever my abs pisses me off i just unplug it, plug it back in when i feel like, this way the pistons in the master reset everytime you start the car when its plugged in so i don't need to worry about braking problems, plus i have a spare abs master and computer in my garage
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mybird I lost count... Joined: 27 Oct 2002 Posts: 3398 Location: ohio 1991 Sunbird LE	Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: or get a car w/o it _________________ Member # 3242 "zedtwentyfour" Well, I guess you can forget about the human immune system! Captain Lysol and Miss Buttplug Nutritionist will save you!
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burn * Newbie * Joined: 13 Dec 2002 Posts: 5111 Location: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada 1992 Cavalier Sedan 2006 Colorado LT	Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: pezed wrote: burn wrote: ya know u dont need top remove the ABS master. I pulled the ABS module and the harness to the master, and it works just fine without it. Thats true. BUT: i've been told the pistons inside the ABS module will move over time and cause braking problems. But overall this is worthwhile. It makes bleeding the brakes 100% faster and my brake pedal is so much harder now. when i press the brakes its like there is a block of wood behind it. it moves about an inch and stops. I like it. (btw ive been running like this for about 6 months. the master cylinder im using is off a sunbird sedan. The part number is the same, but the ABS master cylinder ports aren't threaded for the lines to screw in, the abs module just bolts to it with O-rings between it and the MC) I removed mine like 4 years ago when I swapped my 3.1L in. Ive never had any kind of problem like that. if you have a 92+ you should use the master from the 92 because the 91- (non ABS) use smaller rotors. The 92+ (with ABS) is designed for the larger front rotors. If you want to go to a non-ABS master, you should get one from a newer olds alero. _________________ The First 3400 Powered Sedan
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burn * Newbie * Joined: 13 Dec 2002 Posts: 5111 Location: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada 1992 Cavalier Sedan 2006 Colorado LT	Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Heres a pic of how has been for like the last 4 years... ive never had a problem: master_cylinder.jpg  Description:  Filesize:  117.78 KB  Viewed:  101 Time(s) _________________ The First 3400 Powered Sedan
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pezed I lost count... Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 3691 Location: Richmond, Kentucky 1988 Cavalier Z24 1989 Cavalier Coupe 1988 Firenza	Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:41 am    Post subject: burn wrote: pezed wrote: burn wrote: ya know u dont need top remove the ABS master. I pulled the ABS module and the harness to the master, and it works just fine without it. Thats true. BUT: i've been told the pistons inside the ABS module will move over time and cause braking problems. But overall this is worthwhile. It makes bleeding the brakes 100% faster and my brake pedal is so much harder now. when i press the brakes its like there is a block of wood behind it. it moves about an inch and stops. I like it. (btw ive been running like this for about 6 months. the master cylinder im using is off a sunbird sedan. The part number is the same, but the ABS master cylinder ports aren't threaded for the lines to screw in, the abs module just bolts to it with O-rings between it and the MC) I removed mine like 4 years ago when I swapped my 3.1L in. Ive never had any kind of problem like that. if you have a 92+ you should use the master from the 92 because the 91- (non ABS) use smaller rotors. The 92+ (with ABS) is designed for the larger front rotors. If you want to go to a non-ABS master, you should get one from a newer olds alero. Not true the ABS and non-abs master cylinders are the same bore size and the same GM part #, the ABS model just doesn't have the bottom ports threaded. _________________
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drizler Addicted Member Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 378 Location: Chazy, New York 1990 Cavalier Z24 2003 Cavalier	Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:04 pm    Post subject: Bubble, Double who cares.................. I know this guy.......... just used some good compression fittings and they have worked fine for a long time. Just keep em out of sight and no one will know the difference.
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cahilj Autocrosser Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 7077 Location: KS 1994 Cavalier VL Coupe 2001 RAM 1500 Pickup 1994 Cavalier Z24 1994 Cavalier Z24 Convertible 2003 Silverado 1500 HD	Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: Compression fittings on brake lines are one of the worst ideas ever. Even if it has lasted a long time, it was still the cheap, easy way out, and does have its consequences. _________________ Official V6 Bash "Bringer of Beers" Mrs 88cavalierz24 wrote: I don't like you. You're a prick.
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