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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:39 pm    Post subject: New Here..Code 42---FIXED Reply with quote

As the title says it...i'm getting code 42 on my 1992 2.8L Cavalier...the car itself runs pretty good,but if i erase the code, it will have problems to keep running on low rpm's,specially when braking at a stoplight for 1 or two days,then the code comes on and the car will run "normally".So before trying to remove the ICM,is there any way to test the connections?i've already tested for spark,and there is.I've searched on the forum,but got nothing Sad Any suggestions are welcome Also,i can't access the diagrams anymore,why is that?

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Using these ECM pin-out images:
http://www.v6z24.com/jbodyforum/ecm-pin-out-diagrams-t99212.html
I followed this test:
http://www.fieros.de/en/v6help/code42.html
All it takes is a Voltmeter and get your way through to the ecm.
My problem was a grounded CKT 423,I ran a new wire to the ICM,and so far so good,thanks for your advises everyone.Hope the edit helps someone else with this code.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://extreme-check-engine-light-codes.com/blog/obd1-codes/gm-obd1-with-code-42/

CODE 42
Trouble Code 42 indicates that there may be a malfunction in the Electronic Spark Timing (EST) system. During cranking, the timing is controlled by the ignition module and the ECM grounds the EST line. It expects to see no activity on this line at this time. When the ECM enters EST mode, it applies +5 volts to the BYPASS line and expects to see voltage variations on the EST line.
Reasons for the ECM to set Code 42:
? System in BYPASS mode (i.e. EST line supposedly grounded) but activity sensed on EST line
? System in EST mode (i.e. BYPASS line driven with +5 volts) but no activity seen on the EST line

Possible causes include:
1. BYPASS line is open or grounded
2. EST line is open or grounded
3. Poor connections between ignition module and ECM
4. Poor routing of EST harness and/or poor quality ignition wires (EMI induced electrical noise
5. Faulty or incorrect ignition module
6. Faulty ECM

http://www.theimportkiller.com/forums/index.php?topic=420.0

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fixed this issue on a car I was flipping, it was the ICM in that case. I got one pretty cheap from a salvage yard, they run around 150 locally new.

Take off the ICM with coils attached and have them test it at a parts store. Run it through a few times to get it heated up, often times they need to be warm to start screwing up.

Check all your connections and wires to your CPS -> ICM, I melted some on my 3.4 swap and it caused intermittent issues, but I doubt on a 2.2 that would have happened.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a 92 with a 2.8???
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

people swap 2.8 with 3.1 and vise versa all the time when there is major engine problems. There will be no noticeable difference in performance and all hook up the same.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bondo07 wrote:
a 92 with a 2.8???


haha,yes '92 with v6 2.8, and it's no swap,

lue22 and spyderfreak,thanks for the help and quick reply
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

frozenshaft wrote:
bondo07 wrote:
a 92 with a 2.8???


haha,yes '92 with v6 2.8, and it's no swap,

lue22 and spyderfreak,thanks for the help and quick reply


seems mexico got w/e was in the left over bins for the jbodies, imo the best looking z24 is from mexico, sunbird gt(flip up lights) and a z24 hood with cavalier badges.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

88cavalierz24 wrote:
frozenshaft wrote:
bondo07 wrote:
a 92 with a 2.8???


haha,yes '92 with v6 2.8, and it's no swap,

lue22 and spyderfreak,thanks for the help and quick reply


seems mexico got w/e was in the left over bins for the jbodies, imo the best looking z24 is from mexico, sunbird gt(flip up lights) and a z24 hood with cavalier badges.


they had the sunbirdy GT tail lights as well.. and on the drivers side it had a little z24 badge under the light


hold on ill see if i can get a pic of a real one
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry to thread jack but here!

real mexican Z24

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9YOSQ0hifw



also montes and camaros in the 80s in mexico got very odd options as well
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89z24 wrote:
sorry to thread jack but here!

real mexican Z24

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9YOSQ0hifw



also montes and camaros in the 80s in mexico got very odd options as well


well other than engine variations i didn't know they were so different,unluckily i haven´t seen any flip headlights D: its a shame most of the cavaliers here are so underrated and abandoned
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frozenshaft wrote:
blue89z24 wrote:
sorry to thread jack but here!

real mexican Z24

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9YOSQ0hifw



also montes and camaros in the 80s in mexico got very odd options as well


well other than engine variations i didn't know they were so different,unluckily i haven´t seen any flip headlights D: its a shame most of the cavaliers here are so underrated and abandoned



agreed

but honestly i prefer the phase one USDM Z24s over anything, honestly alot of the mexican versions of chevy cars are slapped together imo, for example 86 monte ss on ebay, all orig but had a factory 307 and a t5 but elcamino dash? and weird wheels... looked so stupid
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