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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Exhaust Manilods Reply with quote

Just started my 3400 swap was just wondering what you guy think about running 3.1 exhaust manifolds on the 3400 heads

What would be the problems and the down fall

the reason i want to is so i wont have to have a custom down pipe made and save a little money

I know there are a few people that did this is the past

and the would the chip i have burned need to be changed

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 3.1 manifolds would restrict the flow of the motor, the 3x00 log manifolds would be the best choice as they flow the best
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Us the 3400 log manifolds those 3.1 manifolds are so going to restrict. but they should not effect your tune just hurt your full performance.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ran them without problems, the engine still performed very well. I used new gaskets for the 3.1 on them and had no leaks.


the 3400's log manifolds suck too, they aren't much better than the 3.1 manifolds,

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so you are saying i could use the 3.1 manifolds with the 3.1 manifolds gaskets and not have to have a custom downpipe made just bolt up wiith the one i have now
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daveycav90 wrote:
so you are saying i could use the 3.1 manifolds with the 3.1 manifolds gaskets and not have to have a custom downpipe made just bolt up wiith the one i have now


Yep, bolt them up just like they were on the 3.1.


If you aren't going for all out power then this will be fine.. If/when you want to upgrade pick up a set of 3500 LX9 front manifolds.. those will net an easy 10 HP on a stock 3400 with a propper Y pipe and exhaust.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so do you recommend using the 3.1 gaskets or the 3400 gaskets
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so do you recommend using the 3.1 gaskets or the 3400 gaskets


3.1, i'm not sure how well the 3400 gaskets would seal to the shape of the older manifolds..

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok sounds good
thanks a lot for all the help
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whitelightning2 wrote:
daveycav90 wrote:
so you are saying i could use the 3.1 manifolds with the 3.1 manifolds gaskets and not have to have a custom downpipe made just bolt up wiith the one i have now


Yep, bolt them up just like they were on the 3.1.


If you aren't going for all out power then this will be fine.. If/when you want to upgrade pick up a set of 3500 LX9 front manifolds.. those will net an easy 10 HP on a stock 3400 with a propper Y pipe and exhaust.


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rsisbetter wrote:
whitelightning2 wrote:
daveycav90 wrote:
so you are saying i could use the 3.1 manifolds with the 3.1 manifolds gaskets and not have to have a custom downpipe made just bolt up wiith the one i have now


Yep, bolt them up just like they were on the 3.1.


If you aren't going for all out power then this will be fine.. If/when you want to upgrade pick up a set of 3500 LX9 front manifolds.. those will net an easy 10 HP on a stock 3400 with a propper Y pipe and exhaust.


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2" mandrel bent off of both manifolds, merged into 2.5" should do it.. for more low end grunt merge the 2" pipes into 2.25" pipe

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought i did a little big, but i went with 2.25" primaries, into a 3" y-collector, and then back down to 2.5" muffler after the merge.
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i thought i did a little big, but i went with 2.25" primaries, into a 3" y-collector, and then back down to 2.5" muffler after the merge.



that'll slow the exhaust velocity down quite a bit and create more heat in the system.. but overall shouldn't hurt performance too much


iirc the LX9's Y pipes were 1 7/8" ID off the manifolds, pretty tiny but plenty for it's projected HP level.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im going to do something a little different with my manifold setup. Im going to use my lx9 front mani, along with a newer style 3400 rear manifold in the back with the cross over port welded closed(cleanly of course). That way im only flowing half the ammount of air through it as usual, so it shouldnt be too bad.

Then a 2 inch y pipe with a flex in between, merged into 2.75 mandrel all the way out the back.
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barry wrote:
Im going to do something a little different with my manifold setup. Im going to use my lx9 front mani, along with a newer style 3400 rear manifold in the back with the cross over port welded closed(cleanly of course). That way im only flowing half the ammount of air through it as usual, so it shouldnt be too bad.

Then a 2 inch y pipe with a flex in between, merged into 2.75 mandrel all the way out the back.


that makes no sence.. why would you use 2 un-matched exhaust manifolds? that could make one side of the engine run leaner than the other. Certainly not going to help..

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