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90oddz Addicted Member Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 281 Location: st.johns, Newfoundland 1988 Cavalier Z24 1996 Sunfire SE Convertible 1993 Cavalier Z24 1993 Sunbird GT Convertible	Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Time for a swap. How would i go about doing a 3500 turbo, Would it be worth it or would a 3400 turbo be better. If i was to go with 3500, would everything Mount wise and And Electrical be the same as if i was doing a 3400? any help would be appreciated, Id like to know as much as possible before i got ripping into the car. I have tried searching, but but luck.
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scott0999 10k Rollover Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 10138 Location: WI 1994 Cavalier Z24	Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: 3500 turbo would be nice, but you can reach the limits of the tranny already with a 3400 turbo 3500 top end is better, and some had the forged crank. 3500 has oil squirters on pistons 5&6
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abob Post Whore Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 1127 Location: Muscatine , Iowa 1989 Cavalier Z24 1990 Sunbird LE Convertible 1997 SW Series 1991 Cavalier Z24	Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:36 pm    Post subject: cost wise you can put a 3400 in your car for cheaper vs the 3500. (stock for stock) _________________ dart wrote: Jbody's are not ment to go that fast. I have to giggle to my self everytime I put groceries in the back beside the nitrous bottle.
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90oddz Addicted Member Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 281 Location: st.johns, Newfoundland 1988 Cavalier Z24 1996 Sunfire SE Convertible 1993 Cavalier Z24 1993 Sunbird GT Convertible	Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:30 am    Post subject: Well This isn't actually for me, Its my friend who is computerly challenged that wants to know. Pretty much what i'm asking What would be best for the money, power and reliability ?
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3.1lbird Addicted Member Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 372 Location: b town, Manitoba 1991 Sunbird GT	Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:20 am    Post subject: how serious are you about makeing power? exremely=3500 very=3400 the 3500 you will most likely be using a 3400 TB (you will need a TB adapter for that. all the sensor on the 3400 TB have the same conectors as the 3.1L you will need a 7x crank trigger wheel also. Wot tech sells them Isnt there a sticky on this?
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decyphex Hybrid Bird Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1282 Location: Middletown, Delaware 1992 Sunbird LE 1992 Cavalier Z24 1995 Mustang GT 1985 Camaro 1993 Prelude SI	Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: http://www.v6z24.com/jbodyforum/3500-swap-details-t98567.html _________________
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90oddz Addicted Member Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 281 Location: st.johns, Newfoundland 1988 Cavalier Z24 1996 Sunfire SE Convertible 1993 Cavalier Z24 1993 Sunbird GT Convertible	Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: I have Read through The Sticky, but im confused about electrical. Dave says strip all the Obd2 sensors off, What sensors would you use?
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david_315 Post Whore Joined: 27 Aug 2006 Posts: 1483 Location: greenfield, Wisconsin 1997 Civic EX 1994 Sunbird SE	Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Like scott said there reaching the limits of the tranz already with a 3400 turbo so save your self the money and do a 3400 swap and turbo. Now if you where going all motor then i would say 3500 asap. _________________ mstreim: "it will crossthread itself out, watch this"
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wite89z24 I lost count... Joined: 25 Nov 2002 Posts: 3824 Location: ontario canada 1998 Sunfire SE 1989 Cavalier Z24 1992 Dakota 1987 Cavalier Z24 2004 F-250 Super Duty Pickup	Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: 3.1lbird wrote: how serious are you about making power? EXTREMELY=3500 very=3400 the 3500 you will most likely be using a 3400 TB (you will need a TB adapter for that. all the sensor on the 3400 TB have the same connectors as the 3.1L you will need a 7x crank trigger wheel also. Wot tech sells them Isnt there a sticky on this? bold is funny to me. Also. why not just rock WOT stock 3500 sized TB? _________________ R/T-------- .335 60---------2.165 1/8 et-----9.373 1/8 MPH--75.23 1/4 et----14.501 1/4 MPH--98.93
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isaachayes Mboard Overdose Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 915 Location: JC, Missouri 1994 Beretta	Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:01 pm    Post subject: Or LX5 TB.... Cheapest way to get to 65mm... Rodney has a turbo 3500 Z26... Just up to what you want to really do I suppose. Either way traction is going to be a bitch. _________________ Owner of the raddest 3500 plenum!
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90oddz Addicted Member Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 281 Location: st.johns, Newfoundland 1988 Cavalier Z24 1996 Sunfire SE Convertible 1993 Cavalier Z24 1993 Sunbird GT Convertible	Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Well If he does a 3400 Turbo, would ported 3400 Better than ported 3500 top end? Edit: How much more power am i looking at Between the 2? what ever one is going to be used will be all ported out too.
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scott0999 10k Rollover Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 10138 Location: WI 1994 Cavalier Z24	Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:56 pm    Post subject: 90oddz wrote: Well If he does a 3400 Turbo, would ported 3400 Better than ported 3500 top end? Edit: How much more power am i looking at Between the 2? theres not many 3500 turbos out there, and I dont know of one thats been dyno'd I think the point were trying to get at is 3400 turbo is fine. if its not good enough just turn up the boost I would go with a 3500 if it was a N/A build though
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90oddz Addicted Member Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 281 Location: st.johns, Newfoundland 1988 Cavalier Z24 1996 Sunfire SE Convertible 1993 Cavalier Z24 1993 Sunbird GT Convertible	Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: So basically it isn't worth the hassle of 3500? And also, Save myself the money and keep the 3400 top end put the money else were?
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macneil V6z24.com is my god Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 2506 Location: Brandon, Manitoba 1991 Cavalier Z24 1990 Cavalier Z24 1994 Cavalier Z24 1994 Cavalier RS Coupe	Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:07 pm    Post subject: 90oddz wrote: So basically it isn't worth the hassle of 3500? And also, Save myself the money and keep the 3400 top end put the money else were? exactly _________________ Member 14354 jowek70 wrote: Well, I have the 2.0, so my bar bends alittle differently, but it fit like a glove. Might be because I painted it silver though.
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90oddz Addicted Member Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 281 Location: st.johns, Newfoundland 1988 Cavalier Z24 1996 Sunfire SE Convertible 1993 Cavalier Z24 1993 Sunbird GT Convertible	Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: macneil wrote: 90oddz wrote: So basically it isn't worth the hassle of 3500? And also, Save myself the money and keep the 3400 top end put the money else were? exactly Gotcha.
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