I have a '94 J-body, non-convertible. The rear wheel wells are pretty rusted: One is rotted through, the other is showing rot, but not as severe. I doubt I will see any of these cars at the junk yard I'm at. Central NY is also known for it's car rust. What cars could I pull a well from and weld into place? All help is appreciated!
Awe, damn. What's the closest I may be able to get? I was told by a mechanic to see if I could as closely as I can, match up the shape from the gastank of a motorcycle. He said it's pretty thich metal and it may be able to work. I will first see if they have any of these at my local junk yard.
I'll take a picture and post it in this thread tomorrow. If I remember. It's the most common rust spot. My friend told me it doesn't have anything to do with structure. Just don't want a hole leading to your trunk.
ahhh.........duhhhh. When u said wheel well I thought your 1/4's instantly. I think others did to. Yeah ur right.......that's your wheel wells alright haha
That is pretty bad. Not the worse I have seen but its in the top 5. Wow where do I start. Im not even sure about patching that because if you have holes that large in there.......I highly doubt the surrounding metal is anything of any substance you are going to want to be welding to.
You are most likely going to be looking for a donor parts car and spot out the well from one of those.
Honestly tho how sound is the rest of your car? Id be scared to look other places you may not be thinking of
I think the main thing tho would be getting the top of the shock tower area beefed up enough because that's the next thing that's gonna happen. Your shock top will bust the rest of that area out and then be flopping around.
ahhh.........duhhhh. When u said wheel well I thought your 1/4's instantly. I think others did to. Yeah ur right.......that's your wheel wells alright haha
That is pretty bad. Not the worse I have seen but its in the top 5. Wow where do I start. Im not even sure about patching that because if you have holes that large in there.......I highly doubt the surrounding metal is anything of any substance you are going to want to be welding to.
You are most likely going to be looking for a donor parts car and spot out the well from one of those.
Honestly tho how sound is the rest of your car? Id be scared to look other places you may not be thinking of
I think the main thing tho would be getting the top of the shock tower area beefed up enough because that's the next thing that's gonna happen. Your shock top will bust the rest of that area out and then be flopping around.
The plan was to see if I can find a J-body like this one, and cut out the wells and my buddy and I can weld them in. I'm not a huge enthusiast on cars, but I'm learning. Can you tell me about the shock tower area?
Well, I believe the braces (see picture bellow) have been welded in there since the car left the factory. I don't recall seeing them before, but maybe I just didn't pay any attention to them before :-?
Here is a picture of the 1992-93 Parts and Illustration Catalog. It may give you an idea of how things go together. You'll need more than just the well to really fix it, but hopefully any car you can get good wells from will also have good metal around it too.
Wow good eye butch. I didn't even see those braces. They are definitely not factory. looks like somebody already knew there was an issue and tried putting a bandaid on it.
Yeah, I think it is the only thing still holding the upper damper mount plate in place. Without those braces, it quite probably would have torn out.
It of course is fixable, but you should find a car that has none to minimal rust for the pieces you'll need. http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi will give a nice list of cars throughout the country. You can call them and in most cases they will cut out the parts you need and ship them to you. Maybe try some of the snow free states first.
Yeah, I think it is the only thing still holding the upper damper mount plate in place. Without those braces, it quite probably would have torn out.
It of course is fixable, but you should find a car that has none to minimal rust for the pieces you'll need. http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi will give a nice list of cars throughout the country. You can call them and in most cases they will cut out the parts you need and ship them to you. Maybe try some of the snow free states first.
Thank you! That must be the piece of metal that the person from whom I bought this car form's son welded in. She told me he did that, but I didn't know it was that piece. Thank you guys so much for your help. I hope this process won't be too hard. It's going to be hard to find this car without rusted wells. That's upstate New York for you!
Yeah, I think it is the only thing still holding the upper damper mount plate in place. Without those braces, it quite probably would have torn out.
It of course is fixable, but you should find a car that has none to minimal rust for the pieces you'll need. http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi will give a nice list of cars throughout the country. You can call them and in most cases they will cut out the parts you need and ship them to you. Maybe try some of the snow free states first.
It's not going to be listed as a part. Your going to have to call and see if they are willing to cut it out for you.
Honestly tho as much as you don't want to hear it...I highly doubt that is your only concern on that car. If that rears that bad....I can only imagine what other areas on that car are like. Have you ever pulled up the carpet and looked at your floor pan, rocker panels, lower firewall , rear trunk corners below tailights and lower a pillar/front door frame area behind fender. These are all common areas on these cars that rot out.
I would think you may want to look for another one. Thats in bad shape. Someone already welded some angle irons in there to keep the stock mount from breaking off. I don't think even that will last too long. You'd have to cut a new one from a junk yard if you have any chance of saving that.
It's not going to be listed as a part. Your going to have to call and see if they are willing to cut it out for you.
Honestly tho as much as you don't want to hear it...I highly doubt that is your only concern on that car. If that rears that bad....I can only imagine what other areas on that car are like. Have you ever pulled up the carpet and looked at your floor pan, rocker panels, lower firewall , rear trunk corners below tailights and lower a pillar/front door frame area behind fender. These are all common areas on these cars that rot out.
I would think you may want to look for another one. Thats in bad shape. Someone already welded some angle irons in there to keep the stock mount from breaking off. I don't think even that will last too long. You'd have to cut a new one from a junk yard if you have any chance of saving that.
It's not going to be listed as a part. Your going to have to call and see if they are willing to cut it out for you.
Honestly tho as much as you don't want to hear it...I highly doubt that is your only concern on that car. If that rears that bad....I can only imagine what other areas on that car are like. Have you ever pulled up the carpet and looked at your floor pan, rocker panels, lower firewall , rear trunk corners below tailights and lower a pillar/front door frame area behind fender. These are all common areas on these cars that rot out.
It's not going to be listed as a part. Your going to have to call and see if they are willing to cut it out for you.
Honestly tho as much as you don't want to hear it...I highly doubt that is your only concern on that car. If that rears that bad....I can only imagine what other areas on that car are like. Have you ever pulled up the carpet and looked at your floor pan, rocker panels, lower firewall , rear trunk corners below tailights and lower a pillar/front door frame area behind fender. These are all common areas on these cars that rot out.
I think ur looking for obvious "holes" which there's more to it than that. Just by looking at your pictures(which aren't very clear) I can see your driverside wheel well is rotting away. Anywhere u think there might be rot....take a screwdriver and stab it with some force...
I think ur looking for obvious "holes" which there's more to it than that. Just by looking at your pictures(which aren't very clear) I can see your driverside wheel well is rotting away. Anywhere u think there might be rot....take a screwdriver and stab it with some force...
I should be picking up a vert parts car tomorrow. Not sure if they altered the vert wells when they converted them but if not and it's not rusted you could come cut them out before I scrap the car. Just would have to wait a couple months for me to finish stripping it.
I should be picking up a vert parts car tomorrow. Not sure if they altered the vert wells when they converted them but if not and it's not rusted you could come cut them out before I scrap the car. Just would have to wait a couple months for me to finish stripping it.
That would be awesome... IF you were in NY. Any way you can ship 'em?
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