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zlittell 
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Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: , Indiana

1988 Sunbird GT Convertible
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I have done a few visual mods... some good electronic ones cause thats what im good at. but when it comes to engines its just not as pretty lol.
I have an '88 sunbird gt convertable and want to put a few things in the engine. I think this friday ill be getting a new air intake and stuff but i want more. I can do the installations or have friends do them cause i get that much i just dont know what to upgrade just to make everything better (doesn't even have to make it faster)
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blackz_twenty4 
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Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia

1991 Sunbird SE 1989 Cavalier Z24
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It's a 2.0, 4 banger, not much potential in them really. If I were you, leave the engine as is after your new air intake, unless it really needs anything. Put suspension upgrades in, from a V6 Z24, strut tower brace, etc. Then, when you're comfortable enough, toss that cracker jack engine and drop a V6 under the hood, but don't rush it, get comfortable with working on your car and go from there.
Suspension info:
http://www.v6z24.com/jbodyforum/viewtopic.php?t=78514
Run a search, you'll come across a crapload of info throughout the site, probably information about your 2.0 as well, I'd give info, but I'm actually not familiar with those engines myself. Ask questions as well, we're all here to help if need be. Good luck with your car, man, don't "rice" it.
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burntricer 
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Joined: 09 May 2004
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Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario




1992 Cavalier Z24 1995 Neon
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im gunna be the first to say this
lol
your best bet for power is to rip it out and drop a 3400 into it
but for bolt ons, there really isnt much for your car, now is it a 2.0L turbo?, or just 2.0L?
if you can do the swap, check out www.domesticcrew.com/660 , thats your best bet for the most info _________________
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blackz_twenty4 
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Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia

1991 Sunbird SE 1989 Cavalier Z24
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| burntricer wrote: | im gunna be the first to say this
lol
your best bet for power is to rip it out and drop a 3400 into it
but for bolt ons, there really isnt much for your car, now is it a 2.0L turbo?, or just 2.0L?
if you can do the swap, check out www.domesticcrew.com/660 , thats your best bet for the most info |
I was going to say that, but it's too repetitive around here, everyone with a 3400 is just spoiled. j/k dude.
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burntricer 
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Joined: 09 May 2004
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Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario




1992 Cavalier Z24 1995 Neon
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| blackz_twenty4 wrote: | | burntricer wrote: | im gunna be the first to say this
lol
your best bet for power is to rip it out and drop a 3400 into it
but for bolt ons, there really isnt much for your car, now is it a 2.0L turbo?, or just 2.0L?
if you can do the swap, check out www.domesticcrew.com/660 , thats your best bet for the most info |
I was going to say that, but it's too repetitive around here, everyone with a 3400 is just spoiled. j/k dude.
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i concur, i was pissy last night (see non-auto-family rant) and i took the cav out for a rip, and mmmmmmmmmmm orgasam. that 3400 sounds soooo nice at 4500 and walking all over a civic _________________
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blackz_twenty4 
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Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia

1991 Sunbird SE 1989 Cavalier Z24
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| burntricer wrote: | | i concur, i was pissy last night (see non-auto-family rant) and i took the cav out for a rip, and mmmmmmmmmmm orgasam. that 3400 sounds soooo nice at 4500 and walking all over a civic |
My 3.1 could do that .
Oh well, think about it, I have a Z and a Shitbird, both of which have no engine or trans. in them as we speak... whatever shall take the place of those 3.1's?
Anyways though "zlittell" either way, we're all basically going to say go V6, whether it be 2.8, 3.1, or 3x00. The 2.0 engine just isn't a very good base to start with. To each their own though, good luck regardless, no matter which powerplant you choose, you came to the right place.
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burntricer 
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1992 Cavalier Z24 1995 Neon
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| blackz_twenty4 wrote: | | burntricer wrote: | | i concur, i was pissy last night (see non-auto-family rant) and i took the cav out for a rip, and mmmmmmmmmmm orgasam. that 3400 sounds soooo nice at 4500 and walking all over a civic |
My 3.1 could do that .
Oh well, think about it, I have a Z and a Shitbird, both of which have no engine or trans. in them as we speak... whatever shall take the place of those 3.1's?
Anyways though "zlittell" either way, we're all basically going to say go V6, whether it be 2.8, 3.1, or 3x00. The 2.0 engine just isn't a very good base to start with. To each their own though, good luck regardless, no matter which powerplant you choose, you came to the right place.
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well he also has the option to swap a dohc head onto it, and have a nice lil hybrid. and if he goes with a daewoo head, he gets "D-tec"!
haha _________________
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zepplica 
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Location: Coshocton,Ohio [home] pittsburgh,pa [school]

1988 Cavalier Z24 1988 Cavalier Z24 1990 Cavalier Z24 1989 Grand Prix
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| zlittell wrote: | I have done a few visual mods... some good electronic ones cause thats what im good at. but when it comes to engines its just not as pretty lol.
I have an '88 sunbird gt convertable and want to put a few things in the engine. I think this friday ill be getting a new air intake and stuff but i want more. I can do the installations or have friends do them cause i get that much i just dont know what to upgrade just to make everything better (doesn't even have to make it faster)
and he also said that
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blackz_twenty4 
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| blackz_twenty4 wrote: | It's a 2.0, 4 banger, not much potential in them really. If I were you, leave the engine as is after your new air intake, unless it really needs anything. Put suspension upgrades in, from a V6 Z24, strut tower brace, etc. Then, when you're comfortable enough, toss that cracker jack engine and drop a V6 under the hood, but don't rush it, get comfortable with working on your car and go from there.
Suspension info:
http://www.v6z24.com/jbodyforum/viewtopic.php?t=78514
Run a search, you'll come across a crapload of info throughout the site, probably information about your 2.0 as well, I'd give info, but I'm actually not familiar with those engines myself. Ask questions as well, we're all here to help if need be. Good luck with your car, man, don't "rice" it.
Chris // |
Yeah, I just quoted myself...
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red91z24 
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Joined: 02 Jan 2006
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Location: paw paw, 49079, Michigan

1991 Cavalier Z24 1993 Cavalier Z24 1995 Cavalier Z24 1994 Sonoma
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lose the aluminum wing.. add a second gen Z spoiler _________________
| thesick wrote: | I got to drive the new 5.0 this morning...
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barmanjay 
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Location: Calgary, Alberta


2006 300 C Srt8 2001 Montana
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Sucks how you guys are soo pro 3400 and anti-everything else
The motor he has is excellent
88GT's were turbo - LT3
For those pro3400 people that don't remember - the fastest production jbody - ever.
There are many things he can do to give it more "juice"
As long as you take care of them and religiously change the oil, it'll be good for a long time.
zlittell - If you want more power,.. you "NEED" to find some forged rods! - However, I am doing a bit of research on the 2.0 ecotec s/c'd rods and pistons.
the rods were forged, but the pistons are cast - go figure
So far the BE of the rods appear to be the same - 2.047, however the length of the rods are 0.300 longer, so a new forged shallow piston will be required. _________________
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zlittell 
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Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: , Indiana

1988 Sunbird GT Convertible
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i planned on dropping at least the 3100 in it but dont have the time or money now... so i geuss i can just try spending more money on the electronics side of my car. and hoefully i run by a car for cheap that has the gm 3100 in it or something...
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barmanjay 
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2006 300 C Srt8 2001 Montana
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| zlittell wrote: | i planned on dropping at least the 3100 in it but dont have the time or money now... so i geuss i can just try spending more money on the electronics side of my car. and hoefully i run by a car for cheap that has the gm 3100 in it or something...
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you are better off getting a jbod with a 3.1 that's blown in it,.. with your car,.. you'll have to swap in the harness, ecm and splice into the underdash harness _________________
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brad14 
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1988 Cavalier Z24 1995 Trooper LS
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i agree with the jay guy,  _________________
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zlittell 
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Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: , Indiana

1988 Sunbird GT Convertible
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yeah easier is definently better when it comes out to be relatively the same lol. but yeah the next thing i get is going to be lowering kit and new struts.
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