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92 tallon tsi turbo awd, audi a6 2.8, dodge dakota v-8, vw carrodo, vw ggolf gti ( new and old) almost all 80's 305 camaros with some 350 irocs here and there. chevy xtreme 4.3 automatic( not stick though!),any of those turbo dodges-shelby daytonas,shadows,lebarons....except a spirit r/t-holy shit they r fast!,almost any civic, almost any accord,new z-24s, 6 cylinder mustangs, many more add to the list if you can beat others not mentioned here!
 

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Ok, so you probably drive the Grand National V6 Turbo. Not bad. In 1986 was rated the fastest production car in the world for 0-60 in 3.9 seconds. Hmmmmmmm. Now I think that would make the races kinda unfair. Hmmmmmmmmm..
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well, thats actually just my username....i actually drive a 1992 chevy cavalier rs convertible w/a 3.1 with a ton o' mods. i have this screen name cuz i really dig grandnationals, espesially my dad's '87 asc mcLaren GNX grandnational. by the way, that one does 0-60 in about 3.8 secs, were "normal" grandnationals do it in about 4.2-4.3 secs. my cav on the other hand does about 0-60 in roughly 7.8-8.0 secs ( gtech tested) of course that run was when i had my intake packed around ice, the engine was cold, and i had my a/c and alternator disconnected, so any ways, to make a long story short, i was surprisd that my cav could beat the above listed cars......
 

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Ok, you make it sound easy to win. Must be nice. If I were to race any of those mentioned in my 97z, I think it would be close. If I had a 5 speed, then I may have a more fair chance.
Sorry for the pun, but with a user name like that, you may get more of the same from others.
BTW, Ive always liked the Grandnationals.
They were also speed limited to 140 and that sucked for such a fast ride. As far as the quote, that was the 0-60 rating for the nash you talk about. 4.0 or higher the Porsches ran and the GrandNational had to do it in 3.9 that year. That was why they were the 0-60 champ that year. I had all the magazines in those days and thats what was said by all. Nice ride. later
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Heh, I'll own a GNX some day in my life... yeah, just like I'll own a Yenko Camaro. If I do buy either, I'd be living in them, since I'd have to save up for a house again. Even so, it's a nice thought.
 

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I have an 87 grand national, they're fast, but the turbo's go out in them, and the headgaskets do too. They have a speed limiter that I think is around the 130mph you said, but the funny thing is that the speedo only goes to 85mph, so you really don't know unless your running next to someone. Mine ran 13.95, with slicks, and it was all stock. I got it for my high school graduation, and got drunk and wrecked it, it's now sitting in my backyard.
 

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speedo goes to 150 wth an aftermarket chip (only on gn's w/ digital guages) w/out the chip, the digital speedo just blinks on and off above 85.
 

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lol, Talon Turbo makes about 200hp, and has 0-60 time of 6.9 sec. and I doubt your car can beat that.
 

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Well I know that a Z24 with some mods would beat a talon. If you think the talon is fast I guess you didn't see the 305 or 350 cameros on there. I think a camero is just a little faster than a Z24 or a talon??
 

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Ok...a Camaro can beat a talon, and a cavalier cant, but the cavalier beat a camaro? Did I miss something. First of all, off the production line a Turbo Talon will burn circles around a camaro all the way down the 1/4 mile...no question, I dont care what you people say. HP is only half the battle. Second, a car that cant even do 200 HP without some forced induction or nitrous beating a Turbo Talon OR a Camaro? I think NOT!!
 

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On 2001-12-08 00:30, 1phatcav wrote:
Ok...a Camaro can beat a talon, and a cavalier cant, but the cavalier beat a camaro? Did I miss something. First of all, off the production line a Turbo Talon will burn circles around a camaro all the way down the 1/4 mile...no question, I dont care what you people say. HP is only half the battle. Second, a car that cant even do 200 HP without some forced induction or nitrous beating a Turbo Talon OR a Camaro? I think NOT!!
Hey 1phatcav, I don't know what the hell you're smoking but I sure would like to try some...the dream world you're living in sounds quite interesting. Lets get one thing straight... your talon would get smoked by a camaro. Look at the stats for both cars and explain to us all how the hell the talon would have any kind of chance at all...sure you can go ahead and compare your car to an older camaro from the 80s and then it might have a fighting chance, but compare your '97 talon to a '97 camaro and then tell me what you think. You say HP is only half the battle? Yeah, you're right, and torque is the other half. And since a camaro has more than double the torque your car has, that's another strike against you. Wanna bring power to weight ratios into this too? Well the 285 HP camaro beats you there too since its ratio is about 12 lbs/HP while your 210 HP talon's is about 15 lbs/HP. And by the way, if you're too stupid to believe all the stuff you just read, the proof is all here.

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dont get all up in my face little boy. I just wrecked my Talon in May at 138 mph about 30 seconds after losing a 96 'maro who tried holding on but couldnt. I should have said MY talon not A talon. sorry. Maybe he was running stock, maybe he thought the piss yellow paint job and black racing stripes made it faster. Maybe he just had a smaller dick, I dont know. What I do know is that he tried to catch up but was left with a nice view of my "RICE" spoiler that kept getting smaller and smaller until he had the last laugh as he drove past the tree that the rear of my car was wrapped around at the time. BTW the fastest DSM is a turbo talon doin 8.870 in the 1/4. Never seen a camaro do that, even modded.
 

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Not all Talons come with turbos, right? So let's see here, yes a Talon with a turbo will beat a stock Z24. That is only because of the turbo, you get a Talon without a turbo and a Z24 would smoke the shit out of it. If you want turbos involved fine then you get a 3.1 turbo in a Z24 and that could still be a Talon with a turbo so if you set the engines up right our cars will always win.
 

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Well 1phatcav, next time specify wether you're talking about your talon or a stock one. After all, you did say "First of all, off the production line a Turbo Talon will burn circles around a camaro all the way down the 1/4 mile" wich is complete bullshit.
 

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Well let's see what a stock talon with a turb does, that's right about 190 horse, with like 160 or something in torque. Now what does the 3.1 turbo do 200 horse and 200 torque, I think those numbers say everything. And don't tell me talons are really fast, my friend has one and I have driven it. It is slow without the turbo, once the turbo kicks in it almost moves...
 
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