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Just like the topic states, I was wondering if more power can be achieved using internals that are significantly lighter than stock? Less rotating mass means more power right?
Um I'm no expert by any means But logicaly speaking this is crap. Reason being is The engine is going to work just as hard regardless of what's inside it. That's what it's desgined to do. Saying it would reach a certian power and then quit just because it's easier dosne't make sense. It's designed to put out "X" amount of force to move the parts. It will still continue to produce "X" amount of force regardless of how easy or hard it is to get said parts in motion. And since the parts are now easier to move than OEM Logically it would be safe to say that Yes your going to get more power out of it.dailydriverz said:I don't think you GAIN power, your loss due to inefficeincy is lower. you know what I mean?![]()
no you do FREE UP LOST hp. which the end result or byproduct is in essence a gain in power.jakearooni said:dailydriverz wrote:
I don't think you GAIN power, your loss due to inefficeincy is lower. you know what I mean?
Um I'm no expert by any means But logicaly speaking this is crap. Reason being is The engine is going to work just as hard regardless of what's inside it. That's what it's desgined to do. Saying it would reach a certian power and then quit just because it's easier dosne't make sense. It's designed to put out "X" amount of force to move the parts. It will still continue to produce "X" amount of force regardless of how easy or hard it is to get said parts in motion. And since the parts are now easier to move than OEM Logically it would be safe to say that Yes your going to get more power out of it.
Kind of like a train that supposed to pull 40 cars now take the same exact train and have it pull 20 cars at the same rate...... Your telling me that both set ups will arrive at exactly the same time??
Maybe we're saying the same thing maybe we're not But I would definatly think a engine with lighter parts (in the same set up obviously) would be more powerful.
now which force are you talking about?I like your explination colin. I guess my only other thought on it is even though it's easier the exact same amount of force is going to be used regardless of how heavy or light the components are right??? So if you dyno'd the new lighter set up compared to the heavier set up would you see a variation in numbers or no?
exactly. the potential for power has always been there. but due to the excess weight "robbing" hp it was not produced. now that its lighter its able to do its job alot easier, which in result increases the amount of HP produced.I mean I get what your saying. That the motor itself isn't any stronger But If I dynoed it and I get 135 hp and then I lighten it and now I'm seeing 145hp even though I just freed up some lost HP due to lightening the motor up and, according to the way I'm taking your explination the motor should have always been producing 145 hp but because it was bogged down it was only seeing 135 hp.
yes the end result is a more powerfull engine. but thats due to better efficency and less rotating mass.Dosen't the end justify the means. Even if the motor was always producing the higher HP I never saw it until I lightened up the internals. therefore my new motor is more powerful than my old set up. Even though techinically it was always that strong. I never saw it.
why thank-you.long lost brother said:Colin is right on the money with his explanations
If you read that again :wink: I cleared up with colin that we're saying the same thing. I just thought of different terminolgy than you guys. :wink: But Yes Daily (even though I was thinking the same thing) you were correct.Maybe we're saying the same thing maybe we're not
or this:jakerooni said:Saying it would reach a certian power and then quit just because it's easier dosne't make sense.
who's telling you that? I didn't see anyone type that...Actually, I think everyone that answered this post including you, Jake, was right. Colin just stated it in the most legible way.jakerooni said:Kind of like a train that supposed to pull 40 cars now take the same exact train and have it pull 20 cars at the same rate...... Your telling me that both set ups will arrive at exactly the same time??
Suck what?autodyne said:um......first off making the engine lighter....does not effect HP as much as torque...