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Visonik won't be equal to JL....... just as JL isn't equal to Focal..... just as Focal isn't equal to McIntosh......

JL isn't as good a brand as people make it out to be, it sure as hell isn't the best amps or subs or speakers out there....... JL is like a higher end of Average (going on a poor/average/good scale)..... LOTS out there better than JL and LOTS out there worse :)
 

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price per watt, per cleanliness, per feature........ i'd pick a U.S. Amps amp anyday over the JL....... hell the JL 500/1 is $900. CDN..... pretty pricey and the U.S. Amps equivelant amp is the same price or cheaper...... RIPS just doesn't work for me :)
 

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thanks for info on the Visonic brand. The only reason I asked is ,it is new and I hadn't heard or sen anything on them as of late. thanks again. BTW what is the difference in their stuff. Thought all the same level ? Does any one know any history on them or are they a Fly-By-Night brand (Here today, Gone tomorrow)
 

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cavytolow said:
dude, i dont know where u get your info....But Almost every Amp made by Visonik will kill Jl's especiaally in price. :wink:

Have u ever heard of a 1/4 ohm amp by visonik that will murder anythign made by JL.

www.perfect-tones.com

go there and look best equpiment around at an affordable price.
thanks dude but I did not see anything about Visonik. Thanks anyway for the help. BTW have never heard of 1/4 ohm amp anywhere??
 

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cavytolow said:
dude, i dont know where u get your info....But Almost every Amp made by Visonik will kill Jl's especiaally in price. :wink:

Have u ever heard of a 1/4 ohm amp by visonik that will murder anythign made by JL.

www.perfect-tones.com

go there and look best equpiment around at an affordable price.
Yes BUT ... I have 2 amps sitting in my garage that I replaced with the JL that were stable to 1/4 ohm (cost me $700 each, but I won't name names cause they are still good amps) and the JL's simply out pound them @ 2ohms. It's the same system just wired different with 2 less subs. The others claimed to make more power, but I'm skeptical.

And how many here think the 500/1 only makes 500 watts? Raise your hands.. *looks around* Yeah that's what I thought.

So I don't know where YOU get your information, but everything I say I've personally experienced so yeah ... buh bye.
 

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Whoa Cousin!!! I didn't even read the parts about Visonik beating a JL! :eek: I don't know who this kid is, but he definitely doesn't know what he is talking about. Visonik products are right there along the lines of Pyramid and Sony. In fact Sony makes a better product than Visonik. I wonder why you can buy 4 12" subs from Visonik and spend no more than 175.00us? Kinda makes you wonder what you're buying, and then at the same time the highest price I've seen for one of their amps is 1100.00us and that's for a 4000 WATT AMP!! 1 dollar per watt or close to that is when you find true power amps. The JL is right at 1000.00us, and the fact that it produces 1000 watts(more than that) continuously between 4 and 1.5 ohms and also between 8 and 14 volts makes it the better buy. Go to a sound off and see which system will do better than any others. JL Cousin...not the best out there, but VERY HIGH up on the ladder.
 

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ninteyonez24 said:
my boy has 3 visonik tens and it hits pretty hard. its not even really set up right.
out of all the replies, i think this was the only one that was actually about visonik
lol bushels of information
 

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well i aplogize for that matter, of not giving you the proper info i though they still had the vinsonik amps up on the page

But comparing visonik with sony and pyramind......your out of your mind.

im not dissin Jl by anymeans but for those who want to go big or go home, look in visonik's higher end, youll be quite surprized.
 

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i'm not hammering JL either, but i personally would rather run visonik. for the dollar, there's not a lot better. there's a guy 5 minutes frommy house that has a silver dodge intrepid with 4 12"s in a wall with 2 of those 4000w amps and he is crunching 160db's. it's clean, but of course not as clean as an sq system is... since this is just spl, but you understand my point. i've heard the JL stuff too, but for the price you pay for 2 subs, and an amp... you could be makin much more noise with a system from visonik. they aren't the best out there, but once again damn nice for the cash.

-this post was not meant to insult, so don't take it personally-

and i myself would rather have a us amps amp than a JL.
 

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Whoa Cousin!!! I didn't even read the parts about Visonik beating a JL! :eek: I don't know who this kid is, but he definitely doesn't know what he is talking about. Visonik products are right there along the lines of Pyramid and Sony. In fact Sony makes a better product than Visonik. I wonder why you can buy 4 12" subs from Visonik and spend no more than 175.00us? Kinda makes you wonder what you're buying, and then at the same time the highest price I've seen for one of their amps is 1100.00us and that's for a 4000 WATT AMP!! 1 dollar per watt or close to that is when you find true power amps. The JL is right at 1000.00us, and the fact that it produces 1000 watts(more than that) continuously between 4 and 1.5 ohms and also between 8 and 14 volts makes it the better buy. Go to a sound off and see which system will do better than any others. JL Cousin...not the best out there, but VERY HIGH up on the ladder.
Allthough i do a gree that a Lower Price tag is often associated with Low quality ie Pyramid, Legacy BOSS, that is not always the case. I recently baught two 10" Power Acoustik FUBR's off the internet, $64 a piece US. Now accoding to your rules of thumb i could buy 4 10's for 256US, does that mean its low quality?? These subs weigh 31lbs each, the have a 10lbs magnet and can handle 600 watts RMS, i thought along the lines of you and figured they must be like audiobahns way overrated Power levels so i got a JBL 600.1 to underpower them to be safe, these things barely move, power hungry subs and the surround on these babies are huge. SO the point is that when a company first starts out, whether its just getting into car audio or just even introducing a new line, they will sell for cheap, so people will buy, the people will buy will be shocked and amazed and like im doing right now inform others. Then the company as it gets loyal customers can start Hiking up the prices, and thus getting more money for more research and Developement. My motto always has been its never what you pay, its what is it worth? Rockford is a Prime example of the exact opposite, Rockford went totally commercial (F&F subs and what not) and as a result of their popularity they have had to mass produce products, and the overall quality of rockford has dropped IMO over tha past 3-4 years while there prices have rose. Ok haha im done my speel , just my 2 cents.
 

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Sir you have no clue to what you speak of. If you have a low quality equipment it doesn't matter whether or not the sub has a huge surround, or how bi the magnet is, or how much the sub weighs. Your power acoustics are crappy just like the Visoniks just to let you know. JBL amps are good for beginner audio, just like you seem to be involved in. The fat that you even said you bought a lower watt amp to underpower your subs tells me that you definitely should not be posting advice in this forum because you don't know anything and you are passing bad information. Rockford Fosgate produced a seperate line of equipment for BB and CC which was a lower quality equipment line for cheap. Did you ever wonder why you can get a Punch 500.2 at BB for about 150.00us and the stereo shop down the street sells it for 300.00us? I'm soooo sick of hearing the RF comments from folks that really don't know the deal. The quote I think you were looking for is "you get what you pay for". Deezay...if that guy runs 8000 watts in a wall in an intrepid he would more than likely be competing if he's in the 160's because there aren't very many people that can reach the 160's. I can get my 1 W7, my 1 JL amp, and rip apart multiple sub set ups. That's what it's about. I think having 1 Ten with 1000 watts hitting 149db in a car that's just a daily driver with no damping and sealing of the vehicle is more impressive than someone with 4 12" visoniks in a wall hitting 149db with damping and 8000 watts. Plus I have room to add more power and more subs if I wanted. PLUS I'm hitting out of the trunk while they are hitting out of a wall with less area to pressurize..so to me my 2 components that cost me 1800.00us are well worth it especially when I embarass you in a drag with one ten while you run 4 12"s.
 
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